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I was thinking about this quote by Upton Sinclair earlier today:

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his job depends on not understanding it.
— Upton Sinclair

I realised that one might paraphrase Mr. Sinclair’s saying and apply it to a different domain of life:

It is difficult to get a man to understand something when he believes his salvation depends on not understanding it.

I suppose that could – and perhaps should – be clarified by saying “It’s difficult, if not impossible, to get a man to understand something when he erroneously believes that his salvation and his immortal soul depends on him not understanding it”.

A bit arduous perhaps? Brevity does seem to add to the quote in my opinion.

The point stands and is underscored by every anti-evolution argument, every young earth argument and every anti-science argument raised by every creationists, ever. Arguing with a religious person is challenging if not futile since the religious have a vested interest in not understanding a point, seeing any proof or accepting that an argument against their dearly held beliefs might be correct.

A point well made by another quote:

You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.

“Can’t” might be too strong a word but it does seem pretty unlikely that one would be able to reason a person out of a belief that they were not convinced of through reason, logic and evidence.

The bottom line? Convincing somebody of a fact using logic and reason when that person has a vested interest – not suffering terrible torture for eternity being a really good example of a vested interest – in not understanding that fact it futile. Or at least pretty freaking hard.

Sunday Video #4

Your religion is the one true religion right? And not completely opposed to evolution (micro evolution, obviously) right? And those barbarians and their witch doctors are just misguided, right? And you take science seriously (some science at least), right? You take your particular sect of your religion seriously (because all the other sects are just misguided), right?

Of course, of course. Now watch this wonderful Sunday video and write me a comment, no less than 150 words, on how you justify all of this in your head and don’t immediately commit harikari out of sheer embarrassment.

Your logic fail is embarrassing. LOGIC. FAIL.

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