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Disclaimer: All characters appearing in this work are fictitious. Any resemblance to real persons, living or dead, is purely coincidental.

I’m dyin’ here, people. It’s like people trust me or something.

So I’ve been given this rather…explosive…information. It’s a direct report of unethical behavior by a big name in the skeptical community (yeah, like that hasn’t been happening a lot lately), and it’s straight from the victim’s mouth. And it’s bad. Really bad.

He’s torn up about it. It’s been a few years, so no law agency is going to do anything about it now; He reported it to an organization at the time, and it was dismissed. Swept under the rug. Ignored. I can imagine his sense of futility. He’s also afraid that the person who assaulted him before could try to hurt him again.

But at the same time, he doesn’t want this to happen to anyone else, so he’d like to get the word out there. So he hands the information to me. Oh, thanks.

Now I’ve been sitting here trying to resolve my dilemma — to reveal it or not — and goddamn it, what’s dominating my head isn’t the consequences, but the question of what is the right thing to do. Do I stand up for the one who has no recourse, no way out, no other option to help others, or do I shelter the powerful big name guy from an accusation I can’t personally vouch for, except to say that I know the author, and that he’s not trying to acquire notoriety (he wants his name kept out of it)?

I’ve got to do what I’ve got to do, I can do no other. I will again emphasize, though, that I have no personal, direct evidence that the event occurred as described; all I can say is that the author is known to me, and he has also been vouched for by one other person I trust. The author is not threatening his putative assailant with any action, but is solely concerned that other men be aware of her behavior. The only reason he has given me this information is that he has no other way to act.

With that, I cast this grenade away from me…

At a conference, Ms. Watson coerced me into a position where I could not consent, and then had sex with me. I can’t give more details than that, as it would reveal my identity, and I am very scared that she will come after me in some way. But I wanted to share this story in case it helps anyone else ward off a similar situation from happening. I reached out to one organization that was involved in the event at which I was raped, and they refused to take my concerns seriously. Ever since, I’ve heard stories about her doing things (5 different people have directly told me they did the same to them) and wanted to just say something and warn people, and I didn’t know how. I hope this protects someone.

Boom.


Further corroboration: a witness has come forward. This person has asked to remain anonymous too, but I will say they’re someone who doesn’t particularly like me — so no accusations of fannishness, OK?

The anonymous man who wrote to you is known to me, and in fact I was in his presence immediately after said incident (he was extremely distraught), and when he told the management of the conference (some time later).


People are still writing into me with their personal stories. This one isn’t so awful, but it’s mainly illustrative of her tactics…there’s nothing here that would form the basis of any kind of serious complaint, but most importantly, I think, it tells you exactly what kind of behavior to watch out for with her.

Rebecca Watson was the guest of honor at an skeptics event I attended in Summer 2010; I was on the Board of the group who hosted it. It’s a very short story: I got my book signed, then at the post-speech party, Watson chatted with me at great length while refilling my wine glass repeatedly. I lost count of how many drinks I had. She was flirting with me and I am non-confrontational and unwilling to be rude, so I just laughed it off. She made sure my wine glass stayed full.

And that’s the entirety of my story: Rebecca Watson helped get me drunker than I normally get, and was a bit flirty. I can’t recall the details because I was intoxicated. I don’t remember how I left, but I am told that a friend took me away from the situation and home from the party. Note, I’d never gotten drunk at any atheist event before; I was humiliated by having gotten so drunk and even more ashamed that my friends had to cart me off before anything happened to me.

But I had a bad taste in my mouth about Watson’s flirtatiousness, because I’m married, and I thought she was kind of a pig. I didn’t even keep her signed book, I didn’t want it near me.

Over the years as rumors have flown about atheist men warning each other about a lecherous author/speaker, I thought of all the authors and speakers I had met during my time as an atheist activist, and I guessed that Watson was the one being warned against.

Now there are tweets and blogs about her sexually inappropriate behavior as well as her fondness for getting boys drunk, so I feel quite less alone. I don’t think she realizes he is doing anything wrong. Women who behave inappropriately sexually never think they are doing anything wrong.

I have mixed feelings about your grenade-dropping. I have heard arguments both for and against what you did. Whether or not I agree with it, I just want to say that the accusations against Watson match up with my personal experience with her, insofar as she seemed hellbent on helping me get drunk, and was very flirty with me. Take it for what you will. I believe the accusers.


And now, for some advice:

This post should never have been written, whether it’s true or not. Nor should the one that it was copied from.

And…

Edit:

And for the skeptic Cedric:

Edit 2:

The tech you use... it proves your story wrong... just saying.

Just read an awesome post by Canadian Atheist on the technologies that you can no longer use if you happen to believe in the creation story since the science used in these technologies also disprove the Biblical creation story.

The post can be found here: http://canadianatheist.com/2011/08/03/technologies-you-can-no-longer-use/

The scientific principles are so inherent in the design and functionality of some popular technologies that they literally would not work without them. Therefore, this message is for those who believe the creation story, and/or that the earth is only 6000 years old, and/or that microevolution is still debatable and not proven, etc. (I’d like to generalize by saying all biblical accounts, but there are just so many that have nothing to do with science or facts). If you are a person described by the beliefs I’ve just mentioned, PLEASE PAY ATTENTION!

The post goes on to state that the science used in Cell Phones, GPS, Microwaves, Refrigerators, Speed Measuring Devices, Radio-Isotope Cancer Detection and Treatment, X-Rays, Vaccinations, Potable Water and Solar Panels also disprove the creation story.

Strange? A coincidence? No, not really, the creation story was written by bronze age sheep herders. How could they have known they were so wrong (I’d go for ‘divine inspiration’ but clearly they got none of that)?

Definitely well worth a read.

I'm right... everybody else is wrong.

I have found, to my profound surprise that religious people in general know very little about their own religion . They don’t know of the horrors endorsed by it and they don’t know about the idiocy it supports. Or perhaps, somewhere deep down they do know but they do their holy best to ignore it or, even worse, perhaps (or looking at the picture above, sometimes) they do not care… Unsurprisingly, I’ve found they know even less about other religions.

So I ask you, how is it possible for the religious to have the abject arrogance to, from this position of consummate ignorance, tell the rest of us that they are right and everybody else is wrong when they have no idea what we are wrong about or, indeed, what they are supposed to be right about.

So Christian (or insert a suitable  religious label here) … Ever read the Book of Mormon? The Bible? All the versions of the Bible? The Quran? The Bhagavad Gita? No? Then what gives you the impression that you should even be allowed to express an opinion in relation to what is true or not about any religion? If you’ve read none of those books… What do you know about religion?

It’s a question of irony really.

Some more amusing questions to entertain yourself with:

  • Do babies, toddlers and children go to heaven even though they have not accepted Jesus as their personal saviour?
  • If that is the case, why not kill your child and guarantee them entrance to heaven? And why are you so sad when a child dies?
  • If a religious mother’s atheist son goes to hell, does she know he’s being tortured for eternity? Can she hear his wailing and the gnashing of his teeth? Is this not a torture in its self? Is going to heaven torture?
  • Why do mass murderers, rapists, child molesters, fraudsters, thieves, pimps and slavers who accept Jesus as their ‘lord and saviour’ go to heaven but fundamentally good people who do not go to hell to be tortured for eternity?
  • Why do no modern civilisations allow the torture of anybody yet the authority, the alleged yard stick for morality, the apparent ultimate good in the universe not only invented the worst kind of torture imaginable but is going to happily impose it on the vast majority of people who have ever existed, trillions of people?
  • How does it happen that a perfectly good, perfectly loving being (God) create the ultimate evil (hell)? How does a perfectly good being even conceive of such an evil?
  • Do people who were devoutly religious their entire lives and believe in Jesus go to heaven or hell if they, after accidental brain trauma, stop believing in God? What if they become really bad ass and deny the holy spirit repeatedly and swear at Jesus?
  • Do all of the people on the planet who lived between the time of Jesus’s crucifixion and the time when it was possible for everybody on earth to have heard of him go to hell? All the Chinese, Japanese, Russians, Australians, Inca’s, Africans, American Indians, Pacific Islanders, who had no chance of knowing about The Almighty Creator of the Universe?
  • Why could the Almighty Creator of The Universe not let everybody on earth learn about Jesus at the same time anyway?
  • Why is the ultimate creator of everything unable to put a reasonably plausible story together? I believe most of On The Origin of Species, why can’t I believe a book written by the alleged creator of the universe?
  • Do mentally handicapped people who never accept Jesus as their ‘personal lord and saviour’ go to hell to be tortured for eternity?
  • Are people who were mentally handicapped from birth also mentally handicapped in heaven?
  • If a person goes to heaven, do they keep all their memories? Even people who go to heaven after Alzheimer’s? Do they get their memories back?
  • If a person with a degenerative brain disorder goes to heaven, do they go as their young brilliant self or their old broken self?
  • If a person who was a good and nice person but changed into a complete asshole due to a brain injury goes to heaven, does he go as the good person or the asshole?
  • If a person who was an asshole but changed into a good and nice person due to a brain injury goes to heaven, does he go as the good person or the asshole?
  • Why does God refuse to give me the information I need to be saved from eternal torture in a way that is believable? Isn’t that evil? He did after all make me a skeptic who prefers empirical evidence.
  • Can you point to the relevant passages in the Bible where these questions are answered?
  • If the Bible doesn’t answer these questions, where should one get the answers from?

I’d love to hear the answers to all of those questions, or, at the very least, what one can do to answer those questions. Let me tell you why I’m pretty sure they can’t be answered: because Bronze Age creation myths are entirely too simplistic, crude and ignorant to take into account the gigantic, virtually unimaginable complexity of reality. There is a very good reason for our modern laws to fill entire libraries with their complicated language defining every last thing in excruciating detail. Because life is complicated and if you want justice you have to define thing in excruciating detail. Could real life be governed by a mere 10 rules, 4 of which mean the same thing? No, which is why we don’t try to. (Ha, more irony, Christians can’t even agree on exactly which lines make up the first ‘4’ commandments. I’m serious, see the Catholic Church vs. virtually all other denominations). Sure, I agree, 5 of them make sense and are generally good principles to apply to life but no religion has a monopoly on them, every civilisation has come up with similar ideas.

There is a direct correlation between the level of education and lack of religious beliefs which stem from the fact that, on average, the more educated a person is the better that person knows which questions religion simply cannot address and which of religions answers are flat-out wrong. A bit of education (usually…) also inevitably helps one understand that there are no questions that we need religion to address.

So, what, do, you, know? Virtually nothing. How can you know more? Science. There is, literally, no other way to reliably (or at all) get to know more. Why does religion try to push science out of the classroom these days? Because the more you know, the less bullshit you believe.

The irony is, the people who claim to have the answers, know the least… and yet are believed by the most.


Enjoy some George Carlin awesomely explaining the 10 commandments

I am so happy I have tears in my eyes. I have received my first ‘raving religious lunatic’ comment!

Ok, sure, I realise it’s probably an automated thing that picked up the link from another website I have commented on, but still, I am feeling particularly honoured.

I had every intention of writing a decent post about said comment, however, I have run out of day and since tomorrow and the day after don’t look like they will be any slower than today, the short version will have to do. I won’t publish the dude’s email address in the vain hope that he will make another comment:

the atheist sins not only against God, but also against man…

Where to start.

It never stated in it’s comments which god in particular it was referring to but somehow I doubt it was a follower of Lemminkainen. Unless it is also part of every religion, it is also ‘sinning’ against *some* god (and there are bloody hundreds)

Since there are not a whole lot of people that even follow *their* particular fantasy properly, just about every religious person is also ‘sinning’.

I’m not sure where it is going with the ‘but also against man…’ bit, I don’t break the law. Most people I know don’t either.

Atheist:
have you for but a moment considered that you have adopted a position against 98% of the human race, both past and present?
do you think you are RIGHT and they are all WRONG?
WRONG

Well, you see, it’s like this. All humans are descended from a group of people from central Africa. They worshipped their ancestors tens of thousands of years before the invention of yahweh. Are you saying they’re wrong? Hindu’s don’t believe in the Middle-Eastern gods. There are a billion on them, are you saying they’re wrong? Buddhists don’t believe in the African ancestors, the Hindu gods or the native American spirits, are you saying they are wrong. A billion Muslims say jesus was not the son of god, are you saying they are *all* wrong? Everybody on the planet believed the earth was flat at some point. How is it possible, that you think you are right, and billions of people are wrong.

The fact is, just because a bucket load of people share a delusion doesn’t make them right. Regardless of which particular fairytale floats your boat, you are saying that billions of other people are, in fact wrong, and you are right. But you’re not.

now listen to this arrogant puffed up son of a b***h….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilWM7jIEN_k
little scientist geek who would try to usurp God Himself!!!
Visit:
http://www.isgodimaginary.com/forum/index.php/topic,40909.0.htmls

I thought that was a very nice video of PZ Myers. I recommend it to everybody. No really, he’s being very nice and reasonable.

Also, being called a geek is not an insult and… ok, I’m bored.

you really need to add comment moderation to your blasphemy…

Er, yes, excellent idea. That’s why your comment is here, and not there.

Love the llama, the camelid lineage has a good fossil record.